UTMB / TDS / CCC / OCC / PTL / MCC / YCC - Chamonix - 28/08/2023
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Re: UTMB / TDS / CCC / OCC / PTL / MCC / YCC - Chamonix - 28/08/2023
La UTMB ovviamente
Quando dovevo scegliere non ci sono stati dubbi, e quando mi ricapiterà mi son detto...
adesso invece i dubbi su come arrivarci preparato ci sono, e come!!
Quando dovevo scegliere non ci sono stati dubbi, e quando mi ricapiterà mi son detto...
adesso invece i dubbi su come arrivarci preparato ci sono, e come!!
PB
10K: 38.48; 21K: 1h25.06; 42K: 2h59.04 Reggio E.18; 50k: 4h13 Ultrak
Amazing race: 33°VeniceMarathon con acqua alta.
ultratrail2023: Andersen - Ultrabericus - CCT - UltraK - LUT
https://www.strava.com/athletes/12683832
10K: 38.48; 21K: 1h25.06; 42K: 2h59.04 Reggio E.18; 50k: 4h13 Ultrak
Amazing race: 33°VeniceMarathon con acqua alta.
ultratrail2023: Andersen - Ultrabericus - CCT - UltraK - LUT
https://www.strava.com/athletes/12683832
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Re: UTMB / TDS / CCC / OCC / PTL / MCC / YCC - Chamonix - 28/08/2023
Grande Bruce!!
Goditi i prossimi mesi, perchè sarà un viaggio bellissimo fino a Chamonix!!
(Ci si vede anche quest'anno a Sestri?)
Goditi i prossimi mesi, perchè sarà un viaggio bellissimo fino a Chamonix!!
(Ci si vede anche quest'anno a Sestri?)
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Re: UTMB / TDS / CCC / OCC / PTL / MCC / YCC - Chamonix - 28/08/2023
Ciao Teo,
francamente quest'anno volevo prendermi un anno sabbatico ...... Pensa che il 25 febbraio mi ero iscritto alla Verdi Marathon
Direi che la sposto al prossimo anno e butto giù un programma serio per prepararmi a dovere alla UTMB.
Potrei iscrivermi a Sestri sulla 47k, mi era piaciuta molto lo scorso anno e non è nemmeno troppo lontano da casa, ti faccio sapere
francamente quest'anno volevo prendermi un anno sabbatico ...... Pensa che il 25 febbraio mi ero iscritto alla Verdi Marathon
Direi che la sposto al prossimo anno e butto giù un programma serio per prepararmi a dovere alla UTMB.
Potrei iscrivermi a Sestri sulla 47k, mi era piaciuta molto lo scorso anno e non è nemmeno troppo lontano da casa, ti faccio sapere
PB
10K: 38.48; 21K: 1h25.06; 42K: 2h59.04 Reggio E.18; 50k: 4h13 Ultrak
Amazing race: 33°VeniceMarathon con acqua alta.
ultratrail2023: Andersen - Ultrabericus - CCT - UltraK - LUT
https://www.strava.com/athletes/12683832
10K: 38.48; 21K: 1h25.06; 42K: 2h59.04 Reggio E.18; 50k: 4h13 Ultrak
Amazing race: 33°VeniceMarathon con acqua alta.
ultratrail2023: Andersen - Ultrabericus - CCT - UltraK - LUT
https://www.strava.com/athletes/12683832
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Re: UTMB / TDS / CCC / OCC / PTL / MCC / YCC - Chamonix - 28/08/2023
corse 2023 : Garda Trentino Trail 65k, Lavaredo Ultra trail 120k.
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Re: UTMB / TDS / CCC / OCC / PTL / MCC / YCC - Chamonix - 28/08/2023
L'UTMB ha risposto:
24th January 2024
UTMB Group statement following productive exchanges with Kilian Jornet, Zach Miller, and PTRA
The management of UTMB Group, represented by Catherine and Michel Poletti, Co-Founders, Frédéric Lénart, CEO, and Marie Sammons, Elites and Teams Manager, met Kilian Jornet, Zach Miller, and representatives of the Pro Trail Running Association (PTRA) executive office on the 23 January 2024 via videoconference.
Initiated by UTMB Group, this exchange followed the publication on social networks on the 9 January 2024 of the private email sent by Zach Miller and Kilian Jornet to a small group of elite athletes.
As an introduction, Zach Miller and Kilian Jornet expressed, in their name as well as in the name of certain elite athletes, their concerns and questions regarding the direction taken by UTMB Group over the last two years through the development of the UTMB World Series, which was launched in 2022.
Zach Miller and Kilian Jornet also clarified:
The private email revealed by the press was not intended to be malicious towards the UTMB, but was intended to open dialogue with professional athletes on the subject of the development of sport, while respecting all of those involved;
This email was not intended to be revealed publicly, through social networks;
They had not called for a boycott of the UTMB, as was wrongly interpreted by some media;
They strongly believe that UTMB had contributed greatly to the development and media profile of the discipline and its athletes over the past 20 years.
The PTRA would like to clarify that, contrary to what appeared in the press, it was in no way involved in the initiative of Kilian Jornet and Zach Miller.
UTMB Group, through its representatives, was able to provide Zach Miller and Kilian Jornet with more precise and factual explanations on certain subjects.
The development of the UTMB World Series
The UTMB World Series has grown considerably over the last two years, going from around 20 races in 2022 to 37 races at the end of 2023. We are now in a much more stable growth period in 2024, with 41 races confirmed. This means the Series can offer a broader range of events close to the main running communities in the world.
The UTMB representatives understand that this very rapid development could have created misunderstandings and even concerns among certain audiences or territories. Specific examples were mentioned, and UTMB Group representatives were able to explain the circumstances in which these events were incorporated into, or removed from, the UTMB World Series.
In addition, the model of organization and promotion of UTMB World Series events was clarified: certain events are managed directly by UTMB Group, others by The IRONMAN Group, and a number are operated within the framework of a license. Whatever the model, all events are managed and promoted by teams located in the event territory, who are in permanent contact with the local community in order to listen, understand, interact on a daily basis and respond as best as possible to requests and specificities related to local issues.
The sporting rules of the UTMB World Series
UTMB Group representatives also listened to Zach Miller and Kilian Jornet on their questions regarding sporting rules. The athletes expressed that some of these rules were not yet clear enough for some elite runners and that this deserved further explanation.
UTMB Group reminded those on the call that they had entered into conversation with the PTRA in March 2023 in order to discuss and amend the sporting rules of the circuit. This included the qualification rules for the UTMB World Series Finals, as well as rules related to inclusiveness, including the pregnancy policy, which has been modified and was received extremely positively.
Exchange with communities
Zach and Kilian expressed their concern that exchanges between the UTMB and the trail running community lack transparency. They would like communication to be more open and more direct with the entire community with more regular exchanges.
UTMB Group representatives took note of their observations and assured them of their desire to improve on this point.
Governance
The representatives of UTMB Group finally took the opportunity to remind those on the call that UTMB Group is a company created in Chamonix (France) in 2003 under the leadership of Catherine and Michel Poletti, and a group of friends. The company is still managed from Chamonix, at Maison UTMB, with Isabelle and David Poletti in the management teams. The IRONMAN Group took a minority stake in 2021 to contribute to the development of the UTMB World Series.
At the end of the meeting, everyone expressed the wish to continue this discussion to make it a fruitful collaboration for the benefit and development of trail running and its communities in the coming years.
For UTMB Group:
Catherine and Michel Poletti, Co-Founders
Frédéric Lénart, CEO
Marie Sammons, Elites and Teams Manager
24th January 2024
UTMB Group statement following productive exchanges with Kilian Jornet, Zach Miller, and PTRA
The management of UTMB Group, represented by Catherine and Michel Poletti, Co-Founders, Frédéric Lénart, CEO, and Marie Sammons, Elites and Teams Manager, met Kilian Jornet, Zach Miller, and representatives of the Pro Trail Running Association (PTRA) executive office on the 23 January 2024 via videoconference.
Initiated by UTMB Group, this exchange followed the publication on social networks on the 9 January 2024 of the private email sent by Zach Miller and Kilian Jornet to a small group of elite athletes.
As an introduction, Zach Miller and Kilian Jornet expressed, in their name as well as in the name of certain elite athletes, their concerns and questions regarding the direction taken by UTMB Group over the last two years through the development of the UTMB World Series, which was launched in 2022.
Zach Miller and Kilian Jornet also clarified:
The private email revealed by the press was not intended to be malicious towards the UTMB, but was intended to open dialogue with professional athletes on the subject of the development of sport, while respecting all of those involved;
This email was not intended to be revealed publicly, through social networks;
They had not called for a boycott of the UTMB, as was wrongly interpreted by some media;
They strongly believe that UTMB had contributed greatly to the development and media profile of the discipline and its athletes over the past 20 years.
The PTRA would like to clarify that, contrary to what appeared in the press, it was in no way involved in the initiative of Kilian Jornet and Zach Miller.
UTMB Group, through its representatives, was able to provide Zach Miller and Kilian Jornet with more precise and factual explanations on certain subjects.
The development of the UTMB World Series
The UTMB World Series has grown considerably over the last two years, going from around 20 races in 2022 to 37 races at the end of 2023. We are now in a much more stable growth period in 2024, with 41 races confirmed. This means the Series can offer a broader range of events close to the main running communities in the world.
The UTMB representatives understand that this very rapid development could have created misunderstandings and even concerns among certain audiences or territories. Specific examples were mentioned, and UTMB Group representatives were able to explain the circumstances in which these events were incorporated into, or removed from, the UTMB World Series.
In addition, the model of organization and promotion of UTMB World Series events was clarified: certain events are managed directly by UTMB Group, others by The IRONMAN Group, and a number are operated within the framework of a license. Whatever the model, all events are managed and promoted by teams located in the event territory, who are in permanent contact with the local community in order to listen, understand, interact on a daily basis and respond as best as possible to requests and specificities related to local issues.
The sporting rules of the UTMB World Series
UTMB Group representatives also listened to Zach Miller and Kilian Jornet on their questions regarding sporting rules. The athletes expressed that some of these rules were not yet clear enough for some elite runners and that this deserved further explanation.
UTMB Group reminded those on the call that they had entered into conversation with the PTRA in March 2023 in order to discuss and amend the sporting rules of the circuit. This included the qualification rules for the UTMB World Series Finals, as well as rules related to inclusiveness, including the pregnancy policy, which has been modified and was received extremely positively.
Exchange with communities
Zach and Kilian expressed their concern that exchanges between the UTMB and the trail running community lack transparency. They would like communication to be more open and more direct with the entire community with more regular exchanges.
UTMB Group representatives took note of their observations and assured them of their desire to improve on this point.
Governance
The representatives of UTMB Group finally took the opportunity to remind those on the call that UTMB Group is a company created in Chamonix (France) in 2003 under the leadership of Catherine and Michel Poletti, and a group of friends. The company is still managed from Chamonix, at Maison UTMB, with Isabelle and David Poletti in the management teams. The IRONMAN Group took a minority stake in 2021 to contribute to the development of the UTMB World Series.
At the end of the meeting, everyone expressed the wish to continue this discussion to make it a fruitful collaboration for the benefit and development of trail running and its communities in the coming years.
For UTMB Group:
Catherine and Michel Poletti, Co-Founders
Frédéric Lénart, CEO
Marie Sammons, Elites and Teams Manager
“ Se ti perdi almeno 3 volte nel negozio svedese di mobili, ti convalidano il cammino di Santiago
A scanso d’equivoci, amo il cammino
A scanso d’equivoci, amo il cammino
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Re: UTMB / TDS / CCC / OCC / PTL / MCC / YCC - Chamonix - 28/08/2023
Ha fatto un post anche Killian su Instagram
La domanda non è se puoi, ma se vuoi.
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Re: UTMB / TDS / CCC / OCC / PTL / MCC / YCC - Chamonix - 28/08/2023
non ci sarà Kilian, pazienza, in compenso ci sarà il sottoscritto
…”quando l’uomo ha mete da raggiungere non può invecchiare” … cit. EF
fai correre anche tu il scopri->qui<-come!
fai correre anche tu il scopri->qui<-come!
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Re: UTMB / TDS / CCC / OCC / PTL / MCC / YCC - Chamonix - 28/08/2023
Evvai Gamba! Che cul!
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Re: UTMB / TDS / CCC / OCC / PTL / MCC / YCC - Chamonix - 28/08/2023
Gamba pensa che Killian non pagava mentre tu si , ci hanno guadagnato.
Son contento anche per Bruce77 che si sta godendo ultra dopo ultra.
Cmq non è il caso di aggiornare la data al 2024 ?
Io non so come fare
Son contento anche per Bruce77 che si sta godendo ultra dopo ultra.
Cmq non è il caso di aggiornare la data al 2024 ?
Io non so come fare
Programma 2024
LUT 120K
LUT 120K
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Re: UTMB / TDS / CCC / OCC / PTL / MCC / YCC - Chamonix - 28/08/2023
Ciao @Francesco73, esatto, un'ultra dietro l'altra sto alzando l'asticella e mi sto godendo le varie gare. E pensare che dopo la LUT mi ritenevo appagato....
A gennaio purtroppo sono stato fermo per una recidiva al ginocchio ma conto di ripartire a breve.
il tempo per prepararmi c'è..... Manca ancora il programma
Al momento ho solo in programma la GTT a giugno. Stavo pensando anche al sentiero del 4 luglio, che mi preparerebbe all'alta quota ed al dislivello impegnativo. Poi... Bho!
Fate l'Ultrabericus pure quest'anno?
A gennaio purtroppo sono stato fermo per una recidiva al ginocchio ma conto di ripartire a breve.
il tempo per prepararmi c'è..... Manca ancora il programma
Al momento ho solo in programma la GTT a giugno. Stavo pensando anche al sentiero del 4 luglio, che mi preparerebbe all'alta quota ed al dislivello impegnativo. Poi... Bho!
Fate l'Ultrabericus pure quest'anno?
PB
10K: 38.48; 21K: 1h25.06; 42K: 2h59.04 Reggio E.18; 50k: 4h13 Ultrak
Amazing race: 33°VeniceMarathon con acqua alta.
ultratrail2023: Andersen - Ultrabericus - CCT - UltraK - LUT
https://www.strava.com/athletes/12683832
10K: 38.48; 21K: 1h25.06; 42K: 2h59.04 Reggio E.18; 50k: 4h13 Ultrak
Amazing race: 33°VeniceMarathon con acqua alta.
ultratrail2023: Andersen - Ultrabericus - CCT - UltraK - LUT
https://www.strava.com/athletes/12683832